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. we also did a poll with cnn. and it's interesting that the american public is not mobilized around this issue. the majority of americans actually agree with the nra about putting armed guards in schools. only 39% of americans think that the prevalence of guns is the cause of gun violence in schools. only something like 29% think greater gun control will be a solution for that. the ideological battle which the president has talked about is not by any means won at all. and, in fact, the gun control advocates have lost ground over the last 10, 15, 20 years. and that's the reality of it. >> and we have been talking about a holistic approach that needs to be taken. and you look at the specifics, whether you talk about assault weapon bans or registration or whether you talk about background checks. those numbers have gone up a great deal. >> yes, yes. and it's funny, because you see a divide now. because in terms of background checks and all of that, they are very high. they're unanimous. more than 50% of gun owners approve of that as well. but the notion that there is a causal relations
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